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Offline ZedRed

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Re: K-Tech Razor R Installed...
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2019, 05:39:11 AM »
*Originally Posted by Greyhairhoon [+]
Have a look at the $8 exhaust mod thread here, it is becoming legendary now. We just make them. :008:
https://www.z900forum.com/index.php/topic,437.0.html

You bought yours at Advance Auto Parts as well? Definitely something I'm interested in.
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Re: K-Tech Razor R Installed...
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2019, 09:53:58 AM »
*Originally Posted by ZedRed [+]
You bought yours at Advance Auto Parts as well? Definitely something I'm interested in.

It started with an elbow at a local parts store. To find a mandrel bent one it most likely will be online or if you have an exhaust shop local to you.
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The $8 is closer to $20
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Re: K-Tech Razor R Installed...
« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2019, 03:17:08 PM »
 Joined the club.


Came with 110N/mm spring to suit 115kg rider weight. Significant improvement over stock. No more rides ruined by the OEM POS! Needed some tweeking though. Compression damping was much too stiff out of the box. Easy to rectify though. Currently running on GHH's settings which work great. Thanks GHH. 👍 Not played with the ride height yet.
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Tighten it 'til it strips then back it off half a turn.

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Re: K-Tech Razor R Installed...
« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2019, 06:57:57 PM »
*Originally Posted by Cazzy_R [+]
Joined the club.


Came with 110N/mm spring to suit 115kg rider weight. Significant improvement over stock. No more rides ruined by the OEM POS! Needed some tweeking though. Compression damping was much too stiff out of the box. Easy to rectify though. Currently running on GHH's settings which work great. Thanks GHH. 👍 Not played with the ride height yet.

Where did you order yours from and what did it set you back if you don't mind me asking? I'm a couple of months away from sorting the suspension on my bike (FINALLY) and now seriously looking at my options.
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Re: K-Tech Razor R Installed...
« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2019, 07:56:18 PM »
Hi Rob.
 I bought it from a local, to me, suspension specialist called KAIS. I spoke to them and others over the phone to discuss options and then called in one night after work, ordered it and collected it 2 days later. I paid 594 which is K-techs RRP.
 Temptingly I got a mail shot from Brook Suspension a couple of days earlier offering 10% discount of all K-tech products (sign up for their news letter!) but I resisted as I really wanted the backup of a local dealer if I had any issues with setup or warranty.
 The reason the local back up is important to me is because prior to getting the Razor I had received a 15% eBay discount voucher and used it to buy a Shock Factory M-Shock 1. The unit I got was basically shite. Maybe they are not all shite but mine certainly was. Anyway although the vendor I bought it from tried he couldn't really help me with the set-up other than to tell me to wind up the preload and then wind it up some more. Eventually after wasting weeks trying to get that thing to work and getting dubious advice over the phone I got my money back. I have no desire to to be in that situation again hence the local purchase.
 Before my curiosity and eye for a bargain got the better of me I had settled on getting a Nitron NTR1 but while a was arsing about with the M-Shock Nitron increased their price by 30. That brought the (usefully?) more adjustable K-tech closer in terms of price and as I had already wasted enough of my fair weather riding season I didn't want to wait weeks for the Nitron to arrive.
 
« Last Edit: June 16, 2019, 08:53:40 PM by Cazzy_R »
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Re: K-Tech Razor R Installed...
« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2019, 08:51:31 PM »
*Originally Posted by Cazzy_R [+]
Hi Rob.
 I bought it from a local, to me, suspension specialist called KAIS. I spoke to them and others over the phone to discuss options and then called in one night after work, ordered it and collected it 2 days later. I paid 594 which is K-techs RRP.
 Ironically I got a mail shot from Brook Suspension a couple of days earlier offering 10% discount of all K-tech products (sign up for their news letter!) but I really wanted the backup of my local dealer if I had any issues with setup or warranty.
 The reason the local back up is important to me is because prior to getting the Razor got a 15% eBay discount voucher and used it to buy a Shock Factory M-Shock 1. The unit I got was basically shite. Maybe they are not all shite IDK but mine certainly was. Anyway although the vendor I bought it from tried he couldn't really help me with the set-up other than to tell me to wind up the preload. Eventually after wasting weeks trying to get that thing to work and getting dubious advice over the phone I emailed a detailed account of the problems I was having, to him and got my money back, eventually. I had no desire to to be in that situation again hence the local purchase.
 Before my curiosity and eye for a bargain got the better of me I had settled on getting a Nitron NTR1 but while a was arsing about with the M-Shock Nitron increased the price by 30! That brought the more adjustable K-tech closer in terms of price and as I had already wasted enough of the season I didn't want to wait weeks for the Nitron.

I did notice that Nitron have upped their prices on everything. As you said, given that the NTR1 shock has now increased in price, its not too much further to stretch to the K Tech shock. Also found the Andreani cartridge kit for 500 including springs through brook suspension. Thinking thatll be the way I go with the forks, which just leaves the shock to decide on. Id love a full Nitron setup, but to be fair, thats just me being snobbish. Id never get the best out of it and its hard to justify the 1000 price tag when you can get the Andreani kit for half that price, especially when someone like me wouldnt really notice the difference between the 2.
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Re: K-Tech Razor R Installed...
« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2019, 11:03:56 PM »
*Originally Posted by RobZ900 [+]
Also found the Andreani cartridge kit for 500 including springs through brook suspension. Thinking thatll be the way I go with the forks....
+150 fitting + courier charges to send your loose forks.
 For me the shock is the main problem area. Spending more on the front than the back goes against the grain. When I do the front it will be springs and the SSK valve kit....or then again. 🤪
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Re: K-Tech Razor R Installed...
« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2019, 11:33:47 PM »
*Originally Posted by Cazzy_R [+]
+150 fitting + courier charges to send your loose forks.
 For me the shock is the main problem area. Spending more on the front than the back goes against the grain. When I do the front it will be springs and the SSK valve kit....or then again. 🤪

I did see something about a valve kit. So that coupled with the correct weight springs would simply be a fork rebuild then? Yes the shock is a problem area, especially under my 18 stone weight, but the forks definitely need improvement. Was practicing emergency stops a few weeks back, braking a little harder each time to get a feel for when the ABS kicked in and what it felt like. Achieved forcing the ABS to kick in, but also found that if I grab a handful of front brake from a decent speed, Im pretty much bottoming the forks out!
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Re: K-Tech Razor R Installed...
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2019, 11:42:42 PM »
*Originally Posted by Cazzy_R [+]
Joined the club.


Came with 110N/mm spring to suit 115kg rider weight. Significant improvement over stock. No more rides ruined by the OEM POS! Needed some tweeking though. Compression damping was much too stiff out of the box. Easy to rectify though. Currently running on GHH's settings which work great. Thanks GHH. 👍 Not played with the ride height yet.

Hey good on ya  :821: You certainly wont regret spending the money, you forget about the cost of something if it is good anyway. I am still basically on those settings on the compression and rebound, I am just 1 turn up on ride height now, which is 4mm higher for every full turn, I had it at 8mm at one stage. I was playing with the swing arm angles and stuff, but I found one turn up suited me. I was then going to play with the front heights, but the bike is so good I left it alone.
Dont panic if you get on the bike some days and the rear end feels a bit harsh and bumpy, just give it 5 or 10 mins for the shock to warm up and the whole thing just smooths out, just leave your settings alone and let it warm up.
Hey have you got the red hose going to compression can under that black braiding, mine does not have the braiding.
Yeah front next, decisions, decisions.
« Last Edit: June 16, 2019, 11:45:25 PM by Greyhairhoon »

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Re: K-Tech Razor R Installed...
« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2019, 12:02:25 AM »
*Originally Posted by Greyhairhoon [+]
Hey good on ya  :821: You certainly wont regret spending the money, you forget about the cost of something if it is good anyway. I am still basically on those settings on the compression and rebound, I am just 1 turn up on ride height now, which is 4mm higher for every full turn, I had it at 8mm at one stage. I was playing with the swing arm angles and stuff, but I found one turn up suited me. I was then going to play with the front heights, but the bike is so good I left it alone.
Dont panic if you get on the bike some days and the rear end feels a bit harsh and bumpy, just give it 5 or 10 mins for the shock to warm up and the whole thing just smooths out, just leave your settings alone and let it warm up.
Hey have you got the red hose going to compression can under that black braiding, mine does not have the braiding.
Yeah front next, decisions, decisions.

Thanks for the advice about warm up good to know. I was surprised your settings worked as well as they do based on our differing weights and global locations. But they are a great baseline.
I added the braiding. That red hose was burning my retinas out every time I looked at it!
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