Mineral or synthetic oil

[Cazzy_R]

Has anyone on here ever used on oil that made any bike they have owned run, or shift, significantly better or worse?
I was glad to see the back of the factory fill break in oil by the time 600 miles came round. Shifting on a hot engine was really suffering.

[zed9]

Originally Posted by Cazzy_R

Has anyone on here ever used on oil that made any bike they have owned run, or shift, significantly better or worse?
I was glad to see the back of the factory fill break in oil by the time 600 miles came round. Shifting on a hot engine was really suffering.

I keep detailed logs for any maintenance or repairs or mods done to my bikes. I own several so no way I can keep track. However, as you get to know your bike you can tell by the way it shifts when an oil change is due.

So yeah, different oils will feel different in the shifting department but from what I've seen the difference won't really show until after there is at least a thousand miles on the oil.

That mixture I showed was used first on my ZRX which has a notchy gearbox at best and I find that mix works well up to about 2000 miles. The ZRX shifting is nowhere near as smooth as the z900.

[Grazzhopper]

Up to the first 200k I had the factory oil in, I did an oil change at 200k and used the Belray mineral oil and new filter, 1st dealer service at 1000k they put in honda gn4 oil 10w30, not noticing too much difference. I plan at 3500k to change to a synthetic 10w40, will see if any noticeable difference.

[smokkan]

Originally Posted by Cazzy_R

Has anyone on here ever used on oil that made any bike they have owned run, or shift, significantly better or worse?
I was glad to see the back of the factory fill break in oil by the time 600 miles came round. Shifting on a hot engine was really suffering.

Same for me, around 600 miles with the factory oil it started to jump gears. After the first oil change with full-synthetic oil it shifted real good and smooth.
I have 1600 miles with the full-synthetic now and still shifts good. So for me the new oil was significantly better than the factory one.

[Cazzy_R]

Originally Posted by smokkan

Same for me, around 600 miles with the factory oil it started to jump gears. After the first oil change with full-synthetic oil it shifted real good and smooth.
I have 1600 miles with the full-synthetic now and still shifts good. So for me the new oil was significantly better than the factory one.

 If I ever get another new bike I will change the oil and filter early.
 There can't be any benefit in suffering a crappy gear change, it can only being doing more harm than good.
 I wonder if the slipper clutch gives the oil a harder time?

[smokkan]

Oil I'm using specifically is designed for slipper clutch so I think so.

[bornslippy]

Motol 7100 is 690 baht a litre or £15.80 / $20.60. The dealer didn't stock it but it was for sale in the accessory shop. So it's significantly more expensive here, but that doesn't surprise me. Everything that is imported is quite a bit more expensve in Thailand. However, they did have Motul hi-tech 100 at the dealer (synthetic), so I'll probably switch to that at the 6,000 km / 3,700 mile service.

Today I put in ELF semi-synthetic for the first service at 1,000km as they didn't have any regular oil. The whole service including oil, filter + service charge was just over £36 / just under $48. For comparison purposes.

Happy riding.


 

Originally Posted by smokkan

What do you guys pay for a good oil like Motul 7100? Here you get 4 liters that's just over 1 gallon for just under $50/€40.

[ninjaef]

Motul semi here.