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Offline zed9

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Re: Why the hate for stock tires?
Reply #10 on: March 24, 2020, 02:25:03 PM
*Originally Posted by MZ900 [+]
I bet dunlop is a good company. But if you try to find tyre model like z900 comes from the factory, you will find - its non exist. So low budget tyre was made just for z900 - and it failed.
Same was for me at the first km's, tyre just slipped in turns and roundabouts even at low speed..making me put sh#t in pants....

"Keeping up with much faster riders...." ))) yeah yeah, tell us more
The d214 was licensed by Dunlop but made by a different manufacturer for Dunlop. Now I know Dunlop makes good tires but because of these I will never buy a Dunlop tire ever. Mine were slipping in the dry on extremely familiar roads not even pushed hard. (I have a theory about that). I went with the Conti RA3 and I'll never look back.
I believe the 2020 z900 uses a different, slightly improved Dunflop.

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Re: Why the hate for stock tires?
Reply #11 on: March 24, 2020, 02:29:00 PM
Hopefully 😅

"I believe the 2020 z900 uses a different, slightly improved Dunflop"

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Re: Why the hate for stock tires?
Reply #12 on: March 24, 2020, 02:44:08 PM
*Originally Posted by zed9 [+]
Do you have the 2020 model?
I do my own tires and I'll ride them til they are well done but with the d214 I changed them while they still had all their tread. Awful tires.
I went with Conti RA3.

2019. Im taking mine to the edge with zero issues (so far). Again, im florida where payment is hot hot hot. Im also running 32/34

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Re: Why the hate for stock tires?
Reply #13 on: March 24, 2020, 03:00:00 PM
For a decade i ride on Michelin Pilot Power on my Z bikes.
Now, after 330km with 2020 Z900 (15C air temperature, dry road) im sure those Michelins are grippier - cold or hot, they allow greater lean angles, bike is more flickable with Michelins, Michelins have softer construction so need more air pressure but they still feel much softer.

Price? Dont know about those Dunlops, but where i live, Michelins (both front ad rear) cost arround 155$.

I did like Metzeler M7RR more than Michelin Pilot Power, but they are almost double the price.
Last Edit: March 24, 2020, 03:01:39 PM by 3alfa3

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Re: Why the hate for stock tires?
Reply #14 on: March 24, 2020, 03:38:43 PM
I will attest to how bad Dunflops are on dirt bikes. Ive never ran a pair on my off-road bikes that was even close to acceptable. For dirt I run Michelin exclusively. Surprised I dont hate these d214s or whatever they are...

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Re: Why the hate for stock tires?
Reply #15 on: March 24, 2020, 11:11:40 PM
*Originally Posted by zed9 [+]
The d214 was licensed by Dunlop but made by a different manufacturer for Dunlop. Now I know Dunlop makes good tires but because of these I will never buy a Dunlop tire ever. Mine were slipping in the dry on extremely familiar roads not even pushed hard. (I have a theory about that). I went with the Conti RA3 and I'll never look back.
I believe the 2020 z900 uses a different, slightly improved Dunflop.

Exactly the same. Dunlops slippy. Very happy with the Conti RA3.
Last Edit: March 24, 2020, 11:12:56 PM by Pedro

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Re: Why the hate for stock tires?
Reply #16 on: March 25, 2020, 12:57:10 AM
*Originally Posted by DirtGearTV [+]
im florida where payment is hot hot hot.
I think that you've just answered your own question. Quite a few members here are from Europe, UK, and Australia/NZ where the road conditions can be trash. I definitely had problems in the cold/wet weather combo in AU on the stock D214, and this disappeared with a set of Pirelli Angel GTs. We also have proper corners  :008:
Last Edit: March 25, 2020, 12:58:19 AM by KellyL

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Re: Why the hate for stock tires?
Reply #17 on: March 25, 2020, 02:33:39 AM
I think the d214 have a bad profile. It may not be the rubber compound, they get over to their edge waay early.
That's my theory.

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Re: Why the hate for stock tires?
Reply #18 on: March 25, 2020, 05:28:31 AM
*Originally Posted by zed9 [+]
I think the d214 have a bad profile. It may not be the rubber compound, they get over to their edge waay early.
That's my theory.

That is really one of the main issues with the stock tyres (and all the other problems that tyre has) but yeah the profile is rubbish, and in just about any corner you are on the edge of tyre, which is a sharp edge and it starts drifting sideways. I can never get to the edge of the R5's, they never drift wet or dry, and I always have about a 10mm chicken strip on the edge.

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Re: Why the hate for stock tires?
Reply #19 on: March 25, 2020, 12:59:01 PM
*Originally Posted by Greyhairhoon [+]
That is really one of the main issues with the stock tyres (and all the other problems that tyre has) but yeah the profile is rubbish, and in just about any corner you are on the edge of tyre, which is a sharp edge and it starts drifting sideways. I can never get to the edge of the R5's, they never drift wet or dry, and I always have about a 10mm chicken strip on the edge.
Same here. I don't think I've been to the edge on the Conti RA3 yet.