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Offline Rishi

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Aftermarket full system
on: July 18, 2021, 12:22:55 AM
Hello guys i was thinking to get a full system on my new z900, i was confuse about power comander and ecu , and which one to go for.?

Also if i choose powercomander do i have to put my bike on dyno run or its just for ecu? Please help. Thank you

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Re: Aftermarket full system
Reply #1 on: July 18, 2021, 12:50:38 AM
Best options: (in order)
1) ECU flash with custom dyno tune
2) ECU mail-in flash
3) PC5 with custom dyno tune
4) Full exhaust only , FTW

YMMV but I'll be honest, I was not terribly impressed (performance wise) with my mail-in flash. The change was so mild  :139:

*I have a full Akrapovic (not "c h i n a" knock-off)
Last Edit: July 18, 2021, 01:05:51 AM by Frontline
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Re: Aftermarket full system
Reply #2 on: July 18, 2021, 12:58:39 AM
Thanks appreciate  it

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Re: Aftermarket full system
Reply #3 on: July 19, 2021, 03:24:02 PM
*Originally Posted by Frontline [+]
Best options: (in order)
1) ECU flash with custom dyno tune
2) ECU mail-in flash
3) PC5 with custom dyno tune
4) Full exhaust only , FTW

YMMV but I'll be honest, I was not terribly impressed (performance wise) with my mail-in flash. The change was so mild  :139:

*I have a full Akrapovic (not "c h i n a" knock-off)

How would you determine it was only mild?  Butt dyno?

I did a mail in flash on my cruiser, and it smoothed out alot of the fuelling holes and abruptness from factory.  Wasn't really meant to be a performance/hp increase, despite it having some gains, but it made rideablility so much better...
James

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Re: Aftermarket full system
Reply #4 on: July 19, 2021, 03:29:23 PM
*Originally Posted by Frontline [+]

YMMV but I'll be honest, I was not terribly impressed (performance wise) with my mail-in flash. The change was so mild  :139:


 Frontline.
 Did you reinstate your secondaries with the flash?  :027:

Tighten it 'til it strips then back it off half a turn.

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Re: Aftermarket full system
Reply #5 on: July 19, 2021, 08:02:28 PM
*Originally Posted by jamestpc [+]
How would you determine it was only mild?  Butt dyno?
I'll have you know that my butt dyno is very scientific and I calibrate it after every meal.

Note that I mentioned "performance wise"... It did help out the fueling some but I was never one that complained about the ridability or sensitivity of the throttle. I was supposed to do a top of 6th gear pull this weekend (to compare before vs after) but conditions didn't allow it  :725:

*Originally Posted by Cazzy_R [+]
Frontline.
 Did you reinstate your secondaries with the flash?  :027:
What secondaries  :164: :158:

I've mechanically deleted mine a while ago. My wrist is the only thing holding my Z back  :002:
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Re: Aftermarket full system
Reply #6 on: July 19, 2021, 08:35:37 PM
*Originally Posted by Frontline [+]
I've mechanically deleted mine a while ago. My wrist is the only thing holding my Z back  :002:

 Yeah I know. Hence the question,
Tighten it 'til it strips then back it off half a turn.

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Re: Aftermarket full system
Reply #7 on: July 19, 2021, 08:39:30 PM
I was still in doubt about after power commander do i have to ( is it must) to put a bike on dyno run ?

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Re: Aftermarket full system
Reply #8 on: July 20, 2021, 11:51:25 PM
I too will be doing a full system and mail in ecu flash.  Will be going the clone/copy route.  Cheap lol.  Before I install will have the parts ceramic coated, blacked out, to match my mostly black/red Z. 

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Re: Aftermarket full system
Reply #9 on: July 22, 2021, 09:58:39 PM
My opinion is to just do a full exhaust only at first and just ride. Ride some more and you will determine if you want to do the ecu or commander. I only did a full delkevic exhaust but purely for sound. Have no interest in a dyno or ecu flash. My wrist determines the power as with many others. Good luck with whatever you choose.