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    Tire talk
    on: Mar 21, 2022, 06.03 pm
    Mar 21, 2022, 06.03 pm
    Marc Marquez and Repsol can't understand Michelin front nor rear tires. :087: :087: :087:

    https://www.autosport.com/motogp/news/honda-without-answers-after-marquezs-brutal-indonesia-motogp-crash/9162615/

    When the best of all can't understand the tire gremlins, we normal people go fishing.

    The manufacturers did change their construction compositions. The rider was used as a test dummy. The bike didn't break, the tires failed.


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    Re: Tire talk
    Reply #1 on: Mar 25, 2022, 01.14 am
    Mar 25, 2022, 01.14 am
    I can’t imagine the frustration. Wasn’t Honda going to make the bike “easier to ride”? Hard to believe it’s fully the tires to blame.

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    Re: Tire talk
    Reply #2 on: Mar 25, 2022, 05.35 pm
    Mar 25, 2022, 05.35 pm
    "Hard to believe it’s fully the tires to blame." Yeah, I agree.

    That's why I linked the article with multiple riders and teams disparaging the tires. The tires were altered after being tested. Obviously they didn't improve them.

    One other point is ... the track management resurfaced the entire circuit just before the event.
     
    I see the main complaint to be the fact that Michelin changed the tires. Couldn't that be illegal when money is at stake?

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    Re: Tire talk
    Reply #3 on: Mar 28, 2022, 10.06 pm
    Mar 28, 2022, 10.06 pm
    Update ...

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/motorsports/puig-hits-back-at-michelin-motogp-chief-over-indonesia-tyre-comments/ar-AAVAcEI?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=cd08dce1 59cb45cb9aeac47d106bdcb8

    Well now Honda and Michelin have accused each other of not knowing how to properly utilize race tires.  From direct quotes ...

    “You must listen to the riders and if you have riders that have been world champions, multiple times, you can assume that these riders are guys who know what they are talking about."

    "Michelin says its findings on the tyres were based on its own data analysis, but Puig believes in instances like this rider opinion means more than “a line on a computer”, while noting that Taramasso (Michelin)“has a mentality” to “not admit any error”.

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    Why do I think this matters?

    We each use the best tires our money can purchase, for several reasons, survival seems to be paramount. The crash MM lived thru surely would've killed me, or maybe you.  On the street the official report would say "biker crashes and dies." What if the tires failed and the biker dies?

    Our wonderful z900 places us within this speed and tire requirements. As do many other brands.

    Are current tires safe? Is there only 1 way to find out? :430:

    Choosing the tires you trust with your life is no small thing. In fact, it might be the biggest decision you make.