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    For You Clutchless Shifting Guys
    on: Feb 18, 2023, 04.35 pm
    Feb 18, 2023, 04.35 pm
    Iíve done it a before but havenít in years.


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    Re: For You Clutchless Shifting Guys
    Reply #1 on: Feb 18, 2023, 07.22 pm
    Feb 18, 2023, 07.22 pm
    Bang-shifting and power-shifting isn't clutchless shifting. Power-shifting involves shifting without lifting off the accelerator.

    Clutchless upshifts involve letting off the power, unloading the transmission, prior to shifting. If clutchless upshifting had the same potential to cause damage, bikes wouldn't be coming with a quickshifter from the factory.

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    Re: For You Clutchless Shifting Guys
    Reply #2 on: Feb 18, 2023, 07.38 pm
    Feb 18, 2023, 07.38 pm
    *Originally Posted by Switches [+]
    Bang-shifting and power-shifting isn't clutchless shifting. Power-shifting involves shifting without lifting off the accelerator.

    Clutchless upshifts involve letting off the power, unloading the transmission, prior to shifting. If clutchless upshifting had the same potential to cause damage, bikes wouldn't be coming with a quickshifter from the factory.
    Good point but quick shifters can be harsh at low rpm or when youíre riding slowly. If you clutchless shift perfectly youíll never get a better shift but if you screw it up itís bad.
    I donít mind using the clutch, my left hand needs something to do besides scratching my nuts.

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    Re: For You Clutchless Shifting Guys
    Reply #3 on: Feb 18, 2023, 07.53 pm
    Feb 18, 2023, 07.53 pm
    While these are valid concerns (and having something else to do with your left hand is probably the most important part), I've found the Z900 to be the easiest bike to do clutchless upshifts on, and it takes very well to a quickshifter.

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    Re: For You Clutchless Shifting Guys
    Reply #4 on: Feb 18, 2023, 08.49 pm
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    *Originally Posted by Switches [+]
    While these are valid concerns (and having something else to do with your left hand is probably the most important part), I've found the Z900 to be the easiest bike to do clutchless upshifts on, and it takes very well to a quickshifter.
    I still use the clutch, tho very little pull, mostly throttle blip.
    A friend I used to ride with never used his clutch above first gear. It was the only way he rode, except down shifting. When I let him ride my bike I told him to use the clutch. I doubt he did, LOL.

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    Re: For You Clutchless Shifting Guys
    Reply #5 on: Feb 21, 2023, 05.59 pm
    Feb 21, 2023, 05.59 pm
    69k on the ZRX 1200 and still on original clutch doing it mostly without a lever.
    7K with the Z.
    Ain't scared  :110:

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    Re: For You Clutchless Shifting Guys
    Reply #6 on: Feb 21, 2023, 06.52 pm
    Feb 21, 2023, 06.52 pm
    *Originally Posted by porkchop [+]
    69k on the ZRX 1200 and still on original clutch doing it mostly without a lever.
    7K with the Z.
    Ain't scared  :110:
    Iíll admit, the smoothest I ever shifted with the zrx was clutchless.
    To avoid the clunk going from neutral into first gear I pull the clutch then either pedal it or let it roll forward a bit and itíll slip into first without a sound. Then I short-shift into second at about 1800 rpm to avoid the other clunk and Iím good to go. 

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    Re: For You Clutchless Shifting Guys
    Reply #7 on: Feb 21, 2023, 07.25 pm
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    The old girl does have a very distinct 1st gear drop / clunk  :028:

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    Re: For You Clutchless Shifting Guys
    Reply #8 on: Feb 21, 2023, 09.16 pm
    Feb 21, 2023, 09.16 pm
    *Originally Posted by porkchop [+]
    The old girl does have a very distinct 1st gear drop / clunk  :028:
    She sure does. Try the forward roll technique.

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    Re: For You Clutchless Shifting Guys
    Reply #9 on: Feb 21, 2023, 09.54 pm
    Feb 21, 2023, 09.54 pm
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    She sure does. Try the forward roll technique.

    Also, if you just started and it's in the high idle mode roll the throttle forward and it'll lower the rpms to help shift into first with less clunk.